Amna Nawaz:
That's right.
We have spoken with a number of people who knew both of them back in high school. Those political battle lines we saw, they're definitely filtering down into the personal spheres of both Judge Kavanaugh and Professor Ford.
Last week, you remember there were 65 women who stepped up to sign a letter of support for Judge Kavanaugh. They said they knew him back in high school. They were attesting to his character.
This is what they had to say, "He always treated women with decency and respect. That was true when he was in high school. It's remained true to this day."
Back when they signed the letter, it was an anonymous allegation. Over the last couple of days, we reached out to as many of those women as we could just to see if there was any context they wanted to add.
And we were able to over the last couple of days reach out to 30 of those women. Two declined to speak outright. Only three, Judy, would speak with me, and only one on the record.
I should point out everyone who spoke with me in any form stands by her signature on that letter. But the woman who spoke with me is named Lisa Heaps. She was a student at another private school in the area. She knew Brett Kavanaugh back in high school.
She says, look, I signed a letter because the allegation that came out seemed so unlikely, I felt compelled to step up and say, this is not the guy that I knew.
She also weighed in on some of the party culture we have heard a lot about. She said, yes, we were 17. We all partied. Everyone partied.
She says she doesn't remember Brett Kavanaugh as anyone who partied to what she would call an extreme. And she also said — this is important — one of the reasons she believes him is because there hasn't been a single other woman to step up and say, yes, in high school, or in college, he did this to me, too.
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